Posts Tagged ‘IRC’

#photogeeks, the new #photography

Monday, March 7th, 2005

It’s official. #photogeeks is the new #photography. If you do happen to join #photography on, it should even bounce you to the new channel.

The fate of #photography

Monday, March 7th, 2005

As you may or may not be aware, #photography has been affected by the (relatively) new policy at Freenode. There has been a lot of discussion, both on IRC and also on my website.

I had a conversation with Rob Levin (lilo) Saturday night (after he was invited into our IRC channel) and he made a very good point: It might be nice if the group of people on #photography actually had an identity outside of simply “the group of people from #photography on Freenode” (paraphrase).

What should this group of people be called? That’s a good question. We’ve been working on an answer.

John Edgar (who goes by the nickname of ‘neom‘) owns the domain I happen to have the soon-to-be-officialy-launched We both have two good names to choose from right there. I personally think #photogeeks fits the channel better. John agrees.

Rob (lilo) told me last night that he could set up a redirect from #photography to #photogeeks. Interestingly enough, he also stated that #photography could remain for the time being, apart from any possible channel reset.

Decisions, decisions.

I think the correct route to pursue is to start using #photogeeks sometime in the very near future. The benefits of having an official site and official channel with the same name are pretty decent. Also, it makes it so our identity as a group is not tied in directly with IRC.

If you’re at all interested in the matter at hand, please leave a comment on this post.

#photography is moving? huh?

Friday, March 4th, 2005

For the past few years, #photography on freenode has been the place for us computer/camera geeks to talk about cameras and photography. I registered the channel way back in January of 2003, in fact.

Yesterday, it was made known to me that channels had to be re-registered. I went to fill out the form (of which the URI was pasted to me in a /msg), and put all the pertinent info into the necessary fields (which seemed like most every field; there was no red star or bolding or anything else which would show priority).

Around half an hour to an hour later, lilo (Rob Levin) messaged me, telling me that I needed to move #photography to something else, either #foo (where foo is the name of a website of mine — a TLD even — .com/.net/.org) or rename it to ##photography.

(Note: I do own, which isn’t official yet — although we’re setting it up — but #camerahacks doesn’t have the allure nor scope of #photography, so it’s not an adequate replacement.)

I asked that if I registered, if that would suffice. He said, “yes”, but then added, only for a channel called #photographyproject. Added shortly after, lilo stated that I needed,, or to actually have #photography. Frankly speaking, I doubt the owners of those domains actually care about IRC — or even know what IRC actually is (it’s a chat room protocol, in case you’re reading this and don’t know). In addition, I highly doubt that even if they did happen to know about IRC, that they would be on Freenode.

I asked lilo about #fedora then, as Red Hat doesn’t have anything called “Fedora”. All they actually have is the Fedora Project (which I helped to start when I was at Red Hat), and Fedora Core (the offspring distro of said project). “Shouldn’t #fedora be renamed to #fedoracore or #fedoraproject? Or should that also be moved to ##fedora?” Lilo replied with “Well, Red Hat is aggressively protecting their Fedora trademark.” As far as I know, Red Hat has only “Fedora Core” and “Fedora Project” in the clear. There was a dispute over the pre-existing “Fedora” name in the software space — and, hey, it’s even open source. They also have a top level domain of!

To make matters worse, I’ve known lilo since the days of #linpeople (and even a bit or #linux on EFNet), all through OpenProjects, and through today. I’ve met him in person a few times at various Linux World Expos — it has not been just knowing him via IRC alone. While part of the team at, we even ran a story on him and OpenProjects. I thought he might be willing to make some exceptions to the rule, but I guess not.

Anyway, it seems though we’re not going to be given a break or be grandfathered in, so the only current solutions are to either abide by the silly IRC games and become ##photography or move it elsewhere. Personally, I already use a few other channels on FreeNode, but I have been around on gimpnet for a long time too, so I’m considering moving it there.

So what does all this mean for Freenode and channels hosted there? Should I recommend that people not have channels on that network? Is #hula going to have to be renamed to ##hula or #hulaproject? What about channels which I and my friends and coworkers may wish to start — should we start them elsewhere? Is there another freely available IRC server that’s similar in scope to Freenode?

Update: Rob (lilo) responded in nice, well written comment. Thanks, Rob.

Still, there is some decision to be made with respect to the #photography channel at the moment; I think that all of us involved with the channel will have to discuss it and try to come up with an agreeable solution.

Also, as a side note, it is hard to know when policy changes on a server (such as one running IRC) are made in the day-to-day use of a server, especially when a person is ultra-busy with work and such. I guess there is MOTD on login, but how many people really read that? Also, there are wallops from time to time, but I’d suspect lots of people have that turned off by default as well. Word of mouth is the best way, I suppose (and that’s how I found out… eventually).


Monday, November 22nd, 2004

This post is just a little plug for #photography, the photography channel on

Join us using your favorite IRC client to discuss anything and everything related to photography (film and digital, dslr and point & shoot, etc.).

If you don’t know much about IRC (Internet Relay Chat) but want to chat about photography, check out’s new2irc document.

Some pretty good free, open source IRC client recommendations are:
* Linux / BSD / other UNIX – XChat, Gaim, Epic (a text-based program), irssi (also text-based)
* Windows – XChat for Windows (free, non-shareware version linked), Gaim (Win32 version), bersirc
* Mac OS X – Colloquy
* Firefox (for all the above platforms) – ChatZilla (included in the Mozilla suite also)

The Red Hat Linux project

Monday, July 21st, 2003

The Red Hat Linux project just went live today. I designed (and implemented) the site, and several others also worked on it too. (:

Anyway, I hope the site speaks for itself. We have a faq, an about section, etc.

There is also a new beta available (if you’re interested in that sort of stuff).

So that is what I’ve been working on for a while now. (:

Update: To quote from the beta announcement:

We changed the rules. We said our Linux should be your Linux. Just as most of the software in Red Hat Linux is developed in an open fashion, so should Red Hat Linux itself; driven by those who develop, test, document, and translate. To accomplish this, we’re opening up our process.

Now this is an evolution, not a revolution. The first steps will be moving much of our development discussions and schedules external, via mailing lists and other means, and including external developers in the process of making technical decisions. More will be done from there. Red Hat Linux will remain as it has been; a freely available general purpose operating system, released on the average every six months. For more information, see:

Also, you can join IRC to chat (nearly) real-time or sign up for mailinglists.

Of course, browse the site for more info. (:

Drumroll, please

Friday, March 14th, 2003

The suspense has been too much for quite a few people I know. Between all the people I know who have asked and a few concerned people of whom I do not quite know yet, I have gotten a numer of emails, pings from people on IRC (Internet chat), and instant messages from those on my buddy list.

One theme was common. Lots of people have cared about the status of both my car and back.

Well, as of last weekend, I stopped taking the medicine (a bit earlier than the doctor suggested), so I’m mentally feeling much better (feeling groggy and odd isn’t as fun as you’d like to think). My back still is in pain sometimes, but it is also better (I think). I got a new cushion at work for my chair, which seems to help a little, but I still can’t find myself sitting for as long as I once could — at least not in that chair at work.

Also, while my mom and grandma were up visiting, I finally got my car back. I should have had them visit sooner (heh). Seriously, the auto shops finally finished up work, much to my overflowing happiness. I should probably do a little write-up someday soon which details why it took so long.

What’s that? Yes, I have my car back. It’s back. I have my car. I’ll say it again: My car is fixed and I now have it once more. Amazing, huh? Will wonders never cease? *smile*

Anyway, I would like to take this time to personally think all of you who have volunteered to help me out, all of those who have actually helped me out (quite a lot of great people), and those who have been there all along, giving support. I really appreciate everyone. Thanks.

The upside to this two-and-a-half month long experience of not having a working car is that I really do have a lot of friends who are more than willing to help out in any and every way possible. Lots of friends I now know better thanks to the car-less experience as well.

Thanks again! (:

#Photography on IRC

Sunday, January 5th, 2003

I have recently started a #photography channel on Freenode, an IRC network. You can hop on over by pointing an IRC client to #photography on

Basically, I formed the channel for people to chat about anything related to photography. The purpose of the channel includes taking pictures, talking about cameras and equipment, scanning photographs, touching up images, software involved to do such, and to provide a place for people interested in pictures to hang out.

If you’re in need of a free IRC program,X-Chat is a great client available for Linux (RPM directory linked), Windows, and even on Mac OS X. It’s available for just about anything that supports X11 also.

See you there! (: